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i feel the need to start a lovely conversation. :) what are you wonderful people doing for Easter this Sunday?

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darling-taima:

I shall be writing my dissertation and hopefully painting! :D

sounds like fun. i wish i had paint. or you’d be seeing alot more art on here. :)

i know. i barely have any of it done. i swear I’m going to forget about the deadline too.

All i have is an idea…can i just type up the idea and send it through? Im sure Sami wont mind hehe
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wait what!? haha people if no one does this contest im deleting my blog

I’m doing it!

I plan on doing it, ok, I just have so much writing to do :c

OKAY GOOD I MEAN IK ITS A LOT OF PRESSURE WHAT WITH MY THREATS OF DELETION BUT SRSLY I MIGHT BE HEARTBROKEN ITS LIKE MY BIRTHDAY PARTY AND NO ONE SHOWS UP

I’m sure TONS of people are doing it. :)
!!!!!!raise your hand if you’re doing her contest!!!!!!!!

meee me me, iam!

heh heh yall i totally just entered into kats post and took over im sorry. have a lovely easter, i shall be at work.

haha. that’s ok. i don’t mind. and thanks, you too. have fun.

kat has the coolest name tho and shes so formal, you should be like HAVE A BITCHIN EASTERRR YALL do you sayyall? i say yall but only sometimes bc im not a true southerner im just a wannabe

I say y’all and iam Australian…(wannabe American)

i love the way you guys talk. its so interesting to listen to.

Its all nasally…

i got that nasally voice you knowwww

Uh, hey Tumblr…

This column only uses about 1/3 of the screen…  Is there some reason you can’t use more of the screen so this doesn’t happen as often.

Thanks..

caong:

bondedwiththesea:

Interesting video about a study done by/still being done by SeaWorld about how social change can affect a killer whale’s vocals and even introduce new ones.

Except the research still isn’t relevant considering they all speak completely butchered version of their birth languages :V

And it still isn’t applicable to wild animals since many of the changes in social structure in captivity are entirely artificial (moving animals between parks, separation between pools etc)

The social associations formed by captive animals are absolute parodies of wild orca social structure. We’ve known for years that cetaceans are capable of learning dialects and calls unique to other groups they come into contact with. This is neither groundbreaking nor particularly useful. The study was done to determine whether dialects are learned - something we already know to be true.

And this chunk here is just a pack of lies:

There are deeper implications of this study. Learning whether social association affects the calls of killer whales sheds important light on how wild populations of whales interact. Scientists still don’t know if and how populations of killer whales can merge. The data from this study give clues about how that might occur.

For starters, social associations in captivity are often forced. Who an individual interacts with is based almost entirely on who happens to be in the pool with them at the time. Since the social structure is wildly different from that of actual pods, it doesn’t actually give any clue as to how members of a wild population interact.

We may not know much about how wild populations merge, but we’re sure as hell not gonna learn anything by studying the calls of animals forced to live together in a messed up society that barely begins to resemble y’know, actual wild orca. Forcible merging of different groups is not the same as social interaction between two different wild populations, and on top that we’ve seen it cause violence and death in the captivity industry. Remember Kandu V, anyone?

If you’re going to use research as an argument for captivity, that research actually has to be applicable to other populations of orca.

This could just as easily be accent differences for all that is known at this point about Cetacean languages.  English is English despite the New York, New Orleans, London, or Sydney accent put upon it, or despite making it difficult for one to understand another at times.

seaworld-secrets:

0rcinus0rca:

derangedhyena-delphinidae:

0rcinus0rca:

derangedhyena-delphinidae:

Top quote from the book Death at Seaworld as noted.

Middle quote from one of Seaworld’s ‘truth’ videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEJSru3ucds — literally out of the mouth of the same guy who was attacked by Kasatka in 2006.

Kasatka’s attack was immediately preceded by her calf making a distress vocalisation. Being separate from, and unable to see to her calf due to being engaged in a circus act, she was very likely frustrated and showed her displeasure the only way she’s able: cessation of compliance.  

I am not making light of the attack on Ken Peters. If that’s what you get out of this, I want you to think really hard about how much you’re missing the point, then go away.

Considering he could very easily have would up like Dawn, it is hard to classify this as an ‘attack’.  

Having watched the videos multiple times, it appears much more like a reprimand like I have seen a mother do to a misbehaving calf than an attack.

She broke a bone in his foot, pierced his skin, pinned him underwater, and shook him around pretty harshly.

Since it’s pretty obvious they’re aware of their own strength, I think the event qualifies as aggression, and an attack is the onset of aggressive action… (she could’ve done way worse, but she also could’ve done way less. Or nothing.)

If he hadn’t been as experienced or calm through the ordeal he likely would’ve drowned. Would it have been an attack then? Or just an unfortunate incident/accident?

This is her 30 years earlier interacting with me.

She is very aware of her own strength just as Tilikum and any other Orca is.

What she, and the others that were in this display, Katina, Kotar and Canuck II, are aware of that Tilikum is not, is the fragility of humans and how hard they can be grabbed because of their experiences in this encounter pool.  That is why Ken only had such minor injuries.  Their Sea World files list multiple incidents over the years where they mouthed a body party of a trainer but did not injure them.  Some would might describe what she is doing to my hand as ‘biting’, but if she had, I would not still have my fingers.  

Had Kasatka not learned this, Ken would have would up like Dawn, who also was a highly experienced trainer.  I have watched the video of her and Ken multiple times.  Considering all the operant behavior training and other stressful things she and other captive cetaceans have gone through in more than 3 decades of captivity, what happened to Ken shows considerable thought, intelligence and restraint.

It was more of a show of control, that when the human is in the water, the Orca is actually in control, despite what the antics of the shows might make people think or wish to “Believe”.

In addition, her coming over the net so easily near the end of the video, which clearly surprised everyone on the stage, shows Orcas have good long term memory as that action was step two of the training for the rope jump behavior that was used in 1970’s and 1980’s but is no longer used nor would any of the trainers there at the time of Ken’s incident likely even know of the behavior.

Please quit acting like you saved all these trainers from being killed by Kasatka just because you got to touch her in the petting pool on several occasions. She and Tilikum are incredibly intelligent animals and they both know their own strength, as do all orcas. Katina and Kasatka were both in the petting pool, and Katina has had very little to no incidents with the trainers, while Kasatka has had many. Kasatka could have killed Ken if she really wanted to, but she knew he had to come up for air and she chose very precise moments to do that. This was an attack, plain and simple. Interacting with humans in the past had nothing to do with it. Any orca can choose to “send a message” if they wanted to.

Really….  You really need to learn more about them since you apparently can’t tell the difference between an ‘attack’ and a ‘reprimand’ or “send a message” as you call it..   Sad you can’t tell the difference or think that interacting with such a intelligent/sapient being every weekend for 10 months totaling a couple thousand hours is just ‘several occasions’.

Sorry if this conflicts with your ‘secrets’ about Sea World, but you’ll probably “Believe” what you want to about them no matter what anyone says. :/ 

derangedhyena-delphinidae:

0rcinus0rca:

derangedhyena-delphinidae:

Top quote from the book Death at Seaworld as noted.

Middle quote from one of Seaworld’s ‘truth’ videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEJSru3ucds — literally out of the mouth of the same guy who was attacked by Kasatka in 2006.

Kasatka’s attack was immediately preceded by her calf making a distress vocalisation. Being separate from, and unable to see to her calf due to being engaged in a circus act, she was very likely frustrated and showed her displeasure the only way she’s able: cessation of compliance.  

I am not making light of the attack on Ken Peters. If that’s what you get out of this, I want you to think really hard about how much you’re missing the point, then go away.

Considering he could very easily have would up like Dawn, it is hard to classify this as an ‘attack’.  

Having watched the videos multiple times, it appears much more like a reprimand like I have seen a mother do to a misbehaving calf than an attack.

She broke a bone in his foot, pierced his skin, pinned him underwater, and shook him around pretty harshly.

Since it’s pretty obvious they’re aware of their own strength, I think the event qualifies as aggression, and an attack is the onset of aggressive action… (she could’ve done way worse, but she also could’ve done way less. Or nothing.)

If he hadn’t been as experienced or calm through the ordeal he likely would’ve drowned. Would it have been an attack then? Or just an unfortunate incident/accident?

This is her 30 years earlier interacting with me.

She is very aware of her own strength just as Tilikum and any other Orca is.

What she, and the others that were in this display, Katina, Kotar and Canuck II, are aware of that Tilikum is not, is the fragility of humans and how hard they can be grabbed because of their experiences in this encounter pool.  That is why Ken only had such minor injuries.  Their Sea World files list multiple incidents over the years where they mouthed a body party of a trainer but did not injure them.  Some would might describe what she is doing to my hand as ‘biting’, but if she had, I would not still have my fingers.  

Had Kasatka not learned this, Ken would have would up like Dawn, who also was a highly experienced trainer.  I have watched the video of her and Ken multiple times.  Considering all the operant behavior training and other stressful things she and other captive cetaceans have gone through in more than 3 decades of captivity, what happened to Ken shows considerable thought, intelligence and restraint.

It was more of a show of control, that when the human is in the water, the Orca is actually in control, despite what the antics of the shows might make people think or wish to “Believe”.

In addition, her coming over the net so easily near the end of the video, which clearly surprised everyone on the stage, shows Orcas have good long term memory as that action was step two of the training for the rope jump behavior that was used in 1970’s and 1980’s but is no longer used nor would any of the trainers there at the time of Ken’s incident likely even know of the behavior.

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